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		<title>By: learn &#124; you &#124; good &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Adobe Licensing Update</title>
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		<dc:creator>learn &#124; you &#124; good &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Adobe Licensing Update</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] way of a quick update with regard to the &#8220;Adobe Situation&#8221; : I received an email from an Education Marketing Manager (at Adobe) yesterday stating the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Too Cool for School &#124; MoreCowbell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Too Cool for School &#124; MoreCowbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] problem with the software has been the Adobe licensing, which has been summed up by Rob Flavell on Learn &#124; You &#124; Good to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: &#187; Adobe&#8217;s licensing needs an overhaul Australian Broadband Deals</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Adobe&#8217;s licensing needs an overhaul Australian Broadband Deals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Flavell is the director of ICT at Trinity Grammar School, Kew. This post originally appeared on his blog and is republished here with his [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Nathan Burgess</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan Burgess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 01:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob,

I&#039;ve received a quotation on the &quot;Adobe Digital School Col CS4 v7&quot; - $120.24 per machine.
As you say, not a bad price for the products you receive, but I&#039;m now told that it&#039;s not available as a site license OR even in a concurrent license version!
For a product marketed as a being for &quot;Digital School&quot;, to only have a single license option is unbelievable.
Like you, I want to give Adobe products to our students - they want them (and they are good), but at these prices we are being pushed to seek alternatives.
I&#039;d like to know the deal the NSW department have made - and why I can&#039;t get anything close. They are issuing Adobe products on their NetBooks, and while I know they are doing it on a grand scale, I can&#039;t imagine they are being restricted by only having the licensing options we have available.

Regards,

Nathan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve received a quotation on the &#8220;Adobe Digital School Col CS4 v7&#8243; &#8211; $120.24 per machine.<br />
As you say, not a bad price for the products you receive, but I&#8217;m now told that it&#8217;s not available as a site license OR even in a concurrent license version!<br />
For a product marketed as a being for &#8220;Digital School&#8221;, to only have a single license option is unbelievable.<br />
Like you, I want to give Adobe products to our students &#8211; they want them (and they are good), but at these prices we are being pushed to seek alternatives.<br />
I&#8217;d like to know the deal the NSW department have made &#8211; and why I can&#8217;t get anything close. They are issuing Adobe products on their NetBooks, and while I know they are doing it on a grand scale, I can&#8217;t imagine they are being restricted by only having the licensing options we have available.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Nathan</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.learnyougood.com/adobe-licensing-is-stupid/#comment-19</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 08:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Nathan

I&#039;ve also noticed that when you license other Adobe software - Captivate for example, you can&#039;t get volume licensing - I was quoted an education price of $182.22 exGST. The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.edsoft.com.au/shop/advanced_search_result.php?x=0&amp;y=0&amp;keywords=captivate&amp;search_value=&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;boxed product&lt;/a&gt; is nearly $1200, so that&#039;s pretty good, but not realistic to provide to staff and students.

We really like Captivate - it&#039;s great for creating demos and explaining stuff, typical Adobe - great software, useless licensing. I&#039;ll have to persist with &lt;a href=&quot;http://screenr.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;screenr.com&lt;/a&gt;.
Rob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Nathan</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also noticed that when you license other Adobe software &#8211; Captivate for example, you can&#8217;t get volume licensing &#8211; I was quoted an education price of $182.22 exGST. The <a href="http://www.edsoft.com.au/shop/advanced_search_result.php?x=0&amp;y=0&amp;keywords=captivate&amp;search_value=" rel="nofollow">boxed product</a> is nearly $1200, so that&#8217;s pretty good, but not realistic to provide to staff and students.</p>
<p>We really like Captivate &#8211; it&#8217;s great for creating demos and explaining stuff, typical Adobe &#8211; great software, useless licensing. I&#8217;ll have to persist with <a href="http://screenr.com" rel="nofollow">screenr.com</a>.<br />
Rob</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Burgess</title>
		<link>http://www.learnyougood.com/adobe-licensing-is-stupid/#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan Burgess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 07:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob,
The issue goes further than just their failure to provide satisfactory licensing for CS4.
We would like to install the &quot;Digital School Collection CS4 v7&quot; (only 5 applications) onto our Netbooks (School owend). While I can use a site license for Master Collection on these, there isn&#039;t one avaialble for the Digital Schools collection! Quotations I&#039;ve seen have been outragously priced per unit, considering the cost of a 500 device site license!
Even the &quot;Adobe PhotoShop Elements 8/Premiere Elements 8 Bundle&quot; is nearly 5 times more expensive than the FULL CS4 suite!
What infuriates me most is that the NSW Department have a deal that we can&#039;t get access to!

When I&#039;m back at my computer on Monday, I might add some of the comments I had from the Adobe Education sales team to this blog!

Nathan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob,<br />
The issue goes further than just their failure to provide satisfactory licensing for CS4.<br />
We would like to install the &#8220;Digital School Collection CS4 v7&#8243; (only 5 applications) onto our Netbooks (School owend). While I can use a site license for Master Collection on these, there isn&#8217;t one avaialble for the Digital Schools collection! Quotations I&#8217;ve seen have been outragously priced per unit, considering the cost of a 500 device site license!<br />
Even the &#8220;Adobe PhotoShop Elements 8/Premiere Elements 8 Bundle&#8221; is nearly 5 times more expensive than the FULL CS4 suite!<br />
What infuriates me most is that the NSW Department have a deal that we can&#8217;t get access to!</p>
<p>When I&#8217;m back at my computer on Monday, I might add some of the comments I had from the Adobe Education sales team to this blog!</p>
<p>Nathan</p>
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